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Rear street tires

Postby Orangeblossome » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:33 pm

I was just wondering what kind of tires do you guys run on the rear to help it hook up.I have 17" wheels needing tires to fit them wheels and help with my traction problem.The truck has caltracs on rear with 255/50/17 nitto's extreme performance tires.Truck will not hook I think these tires I have suck for traction but they are a good drivin tire.It will see track some but mostly street.
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby lxtasy » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:14 pm

I run 275/60/15 Mt Drag radials in the rear. M/T makes a 17" drag radial as well :thumbup:
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby WRKTRKFROMHELL » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:24 pm

want traction???????
swap the 406 for a 355 :mrgreen: JK..I have a 406 with vic'jr heads & intake & I'll tell you this .................................
There is no traction on the street :( 28/10.5's & still spins on comand in 1st.
on the street I leave it in 2nd rollout when it clicks into 2nd I roll into the throd till the tires start to spin then just haze the tires.can't give FULL power till 2/3rds of 2nd.3rd its onthe floor 8) OH the front end dosent come off the bump stops till about 5k in 3rd :twisted:
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby Orangeblossome » Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:05 pm

yea mine is same way, just no traction at all trough 1st nor 2nd and in drive it will catch then pulls really hard.It runs 11.49/11.50 const. at 116mph in the 1/4. Iam pleased at how it runs just no traction on the street, a good 13 sec. car can bust me on the street.I'am going to order the 17" mickeyt, but I don't think, they will last to long on the street but oh well.(lol)
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby Rickracer » Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:22 pm

I used to run Micky Thompson S&S (soft, traction compound) N50s on my 427 Vega, and I went through 3 sets in about 2 years. Then I put a set of McCreary GT series dirt tires (non DOT but treaded, and gumball soft). They lasted over a year, because they hooked most of the time, they didn't spin every time I touched the gas. :wink: 8)
The car dropped about .3 first time out with the new tires too. 8)
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby george » Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:28 am

I used to use dirt compound McCrearys a lot as well, until the ET Streets came out. They were my default "street" tire for about 20 years. Hard hooking tire. Not sure if this is still true, but they used to be about the cheapest as well.
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby Rickracer » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:01 pm

I put a set of M/T 295/50/16 Drag Radials on my truck year before last, and let me tell ya, THEY HOOK(ed)...........but they only lasted about 7 months, the way I drive.... :mrgreen:
Got some Maxxis 295/50/16s on it now, had em about a year now, they hook fairly well for a regular street tire, and seem to be lasting pretty well too. :thumbup:
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby Memphis » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:22 pm

Rickracer wrote:I put a set of M/T 295/50/16 Drag Radials on my truck year before last, and let me tell ya, THEY HOOK(ed)...........but they only lasted about 7 months, the way I drive.... :mrgreen:
Got some Maxxis 295/50/16s on it now, had em about a year now, they hook fairly well for a regular street tire, and seem to be lasting pretty well too. :thumbup:

I think the McCreary brand is now sold under the American Racer.... They are still the cheapest sticky tire you can buy. I'm looking at a set on their website to try and get some traction.
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby george » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:10 pm

Rickracer wrote:I put a set of M/T 295/50/16 Drag Radials on my truck year before last, and let me tell ya, THEY HOOK(ed)...........but they only lasted about 7 months, the way I drive.... :mrgreen:
Got some Maxxis 295/50/16s on it now, had em about a year now, they hook fairly well for a regular street tire, and seem to be lasting pretty well too. :thumbup:

I am going to replace my Et Streets with 295/55/15 M/T drag radials this spring. My off-season daily driver tires are M/T 275/60/15 ST's, I think they actually hook better than the SR's, and they are quite good in the rain, which is important here in the pacific NW. Hook-wise, they are about as good as Nitto 555's which means wot in first blows them off.
I added a rear pic of my track day set-up on the "biggest tires without backhalf" thread earlier today, you can check it out there. I'll be more comfortable using the radials as a spring/summer daily tire than the ET Streets, even a little rain and you are SOL on the ET streets. And I am sick and tired of having to wait till after the 1-2 shift then rolling it on on the street... :twisted:
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby socal1200r » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:54 pm

I'm running 285/40-17 Conti Extremes on the rear, and was looking to get a slightly bigger tire back there (larger section width and diameter), since the overall diameter (OD) is just slightly larger than the 245/45-17s I'm running on the front. Biggest tire I could find is a 295/45-17 MT ET street drag radial (DOT approved). They're pricey at $260 ea, and I was wondering what kind of mileage I could expect to get out of them? The truck will be driven on the street only, no track time, no burnouts, etc., so I'm curious as to how many miles I could expect to get from them? 5000 miles? 10K miles? Or?

http://www.jegs.com/i/Mickey-Thompson/6 ... R/10002/-1
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby loosenut » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:00 pm

I picked up a set of 245/45/17's BF Goodrich Comp 2, I cant compare performance to the other guys, but they spin somewhat easy on the street and hook well(for me) at the track. I've put about 12 runs, 3 burnouts & 1000miles on them this summer and they still look new.

http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/tire-sel ... ival-tires

I also always recommend that in order to pick the correct tire, you definitely should ask others (as was done here), also learn tire components ie tread wear, temp rating and how driving style/environment plays a factor. Example, what works for me in Missouri may not work for someone say in Wisconsin and more hp.

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Re: Rear street tires

Postby socal1200r » Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:09 am

socal1200r wrote:I'm running 285/40-17 Conti Extremes on the rear, and was looking to get a slightly bigger tire back there (larger section width and diameter), since the overall diameter (OD) is just slightly larger than the 245/45-17s I'm running on the front. Biggest tire I could find is a 295/45-17 MT ET street drag radial (DOT approved). They're pricey at $260 ea, and I was wondering what kind of mileage I could expect to get out of them? The truck will be driven on the street only, no track time, no burnouts, etc., so I'm curious as to how many miles I could expect to get from them? 5000 miles? 10K miles? Or?

http://www.jegs.com/i/Mickey-Thompson/6 ... R/10002/-1


Also, I don't purposely drive this truck in the rain, but I suppose wet weather traction should be taken into account as well. I don't want to get a tire that's going to leave me slipping and sliding in the rain, should I find myself caught in it. Unless I go to an 18" rear wheel, it looks like this 295/45-17 MT street radial is the biggest 17" tire I've found out there. According to some tire size calculator website, the 295/45 versus 285/40 I have now is going to be about .4" wider on the ground, and about 1.25" bigger in overall diameter. Subtle increases, but I think overall that size will give me the bigger rear tire look I want.
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby Rickracer » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:41 am

socal1200r wrote:... it looks like this 295/45-17 MT street radial is the biggest 17" tire I've found out there. According to some tire size calculator website, the 295/45 versus 285/40 I have now is going to be about .4" wider on the ground, and about 1.25" bigger in overall diameter. Subtle increases, but I think overall that size will give me the bigger rear tire look I want.

Sounds like a plan to me... 8)
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby socal1200r » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:19 pm

So I'm thinking of changing tire sizes next time I need rears. I'm running 295/45-17s on a 9" wide wheel. I'm running 245/45-17s on the front with an 8" wide wheel, and the larger diameter rear gives the truck a slight rake towards the front. If I ran 315/35s on the back, the OD will be the same as the fronts, but the section width is almost 3" wider, which will give it a really meaty look, and put a lot of rubber down on the road.

However, every site I've seen with 315/35-17s listed have a minimum rim width of at least 10.5", and I'm running 9" now. I don't want to have to get wider rear wheels to run this size tire, so my question is would this tire work on a 9" wide rim? I don't race the truck or put it on the track, it's just my cruise-around-town ride. Will that 315/35 look funny on a 9" wheel, like it's obviously too wide a tire for the wheel?
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby socal1200r » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:25 pm

Heard back from Jegs about fitting a 315/35 on a 9" wide rim. They highly recommend against it, something about the rim not being wide enough, and it could unseat the bead if it hit a bump or something. 'Course I would expect them to say something like that for liability purposes, but does it make sense to everyone else? The reason I'm pursuing the 315/35 option is because there's a pair of Nitto NT05s on my local Craig's List for $350. I've looked on Jegs and Summit, and they don't seem to carry the 295/45s I'm running now on the back...
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby socal1200r » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:25 pm

Here's some additional info on my tire situation. Went to one of those tire calculator websites, and got the following stats on my current set of tires:

245/45-17 OD is 25.7", section width is 9.6"
295/45-17 OD is 27.5", section width is 11.6"
315/35-17 OD is 25.7", section width is 12.4"

So these 315/35s that are on my local Craig's List are less than an inch wider than what I have now, so an extra half inch on the front and back side of the wheel should easily fit, right? The 315/35s have the same overall diameter as the fronts, so the truck should sit level, instead of a slight forward rake that it has now with the 295/45s on the back.
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby XXXXXXXX » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:26 am

Here try this... its pretty cool... give you a visual along with the difference is specs.

https://tiresize.com/comparison/

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Re: Rear street tires

Postby socal1200r » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:57 am

That's one of the tire calculator websites I have bookmarked. Here's another one, which gives a good graphic of the "before and after" look, along with the specs...

http://www.willtheyfit.com
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Re: Rear street tires

Postby socal1200r » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:38 pm

This is the rear rim I'm running now, it's 17x9, 5.25" backspace, 6mm offset:

http://www.jegs.com/i/MHT/608/U10917906 ... Id=3318886


Apparently, if I want to run 315/35 or just about anything bigger than the 295/45s I'm running now, this is the rim I'll probably get. It's 17x10.5, 7.40 backspacing, 44mm offset:

http://www.jegs.com/i/Hurst/530/806048/10002/-1


So taking the above info and plugging it into this website yields the following results:

http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?wi ... 4#isPage=1


Without spacers, I'm pretty sure the 10.5 inch wide wheel won't clear the backside. By playing around with the offset on the 10.5" wheel, it looks like a 1" spacer will bring the outside of the wheel to the same point as the 9" wide wheel, i.e. change the offset from 44mm to 20mm. Using a 2" spacer will bring the backside of the wheel to the same point as the 9" wheel, i.e. change the offset from 44mm to 0.

It's funny, because those Hurst wheels were the ones I originally wanted to get. But I wanted to run the same size wheels that were on the truck when I bought it, which was 8" fronts and 9" rears. I should've just stuck with getting the Hurst wheels in the first place, lol!
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