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LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby crankshaft » Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:59 pm

Ok guys as stated in the ls1 brake thread I might be able to get the brackets and hubs premade at a pretty decent price. Right now I need to know how much interest there would be in these before I go much further. I already put the order in for a dozen brackets, because once the machine is set up the price difference for one or 12 isn't that much. The big one is having the rotors cut down to hubs. I'm still negotiating prices but I think I can get them done reasonable. Here is a breakdown of what I'm thinking.

Spindle bracket including hardware ~ $40 set of two shipped
These are machined out of 5/16" steel and will come with 4 10mm spindle bolts. Will come primered to keep from rusting
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Hubs with brackets~ $140 set shipped
These are where it gets a little pricey. Stock hubs (non-abs & abs) cut down to fit inside the LS1 rotors. Come with all new longer studs and new bearing seals, all you'll need is to put in your own bearings. As you can see in the pic there is a little material let on the back side which I kind of like because it seems like it gives a little strength instead of just the flat mounting surface I have seen in other pics. Let me know what you think about this. Will come bare (cleaned up), your choice to leave natural or coat how you feel.
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Like I said the cost of the hubs is really up in the air. I have to figure in cost of the core (unless and exchange program can be worked out but shipping would be costly), machining cost, and price of studs.
Update: Come to find out today, by accident, that the extra ring I was leaving on the back side of the hub is barely being held on by any material. I had accidentally broke one off installing studs and after checking another hub there is only like .050 material at the thickest point even holding it on. So I don't feel that it is really adding any benefit in strength after all. So I think I might just forgo that whole outer ring and just have them made a flat mounting surface, like rickracers' and many others have had made.
Give me some input good or bad. I'm going to have brackets either way but if there is enough interest I'll start digging up junk rotors.
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (feeler)

Postby s10studduts01s » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:49 pm

hmm let me check to see what it would run to get the rotors turned locally and ill let you know
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (feeler)

Postby Rickracer » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:56 pm

Better make sure the hub will fit inside the LS rotor, mine wound up pretty snug, those look like they might even be too big a diameter, :? 8)
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby 88LT1Blazer » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:39 pm

Prove to me that these hubs fit and the brackets are right. If so, I'm in! :thumbup:
For this price on the hubs, It should come with the seal atleast!!
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby baktrak » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:20 pm

88LT1Blazer wrote:Prove to me that these hubs fit and the brackets are right. If so, I'm in! :thumbup:
For this price on the hubs, It should come with the seal atleast!!

X2 if they fit I will buy a kit asap.
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby crankshaft » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:24 pm

The ls1 rotors do fit over the hubs, i'll get pics tommorrow. I'm thinking that everyone elses cut rotors/hubs were but down where the first step on mine are. Cutting them all the way through probably would be easier but after seeing them like this I kind of like it because I feel it gives the hub a little more "meat" and strength. When I go and put the driver side back together for the final time I'll make sure and take lots of pics of the bracket and how the assembly fits together.

As for the hub price I did put this up a little high just because there are some cost on my end that are still up in the air and would rather come back and lower the price than jack it up. The biggest unknown is getting all of the cores to cut down. The ones I picked up at the j/k were like $20 each and that was during a special ( wish I would have kept the my originals when I got the drilled and slotted ones before doing this.) I'm hoping I can pick some up at another yard I go to cheaper of maybe get some off craigslist or something. But if seals are the deal breaker I think we can work that out. :thumbup:
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby AWD V8 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:55 pm

Have you checked at brake shops for scrap rotors? The shops are here would gladly take 5 bucks for a scrap rotor. They only a a buck or so.
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby 97_lt1_sleeper » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:45 am

How timely that you ask this right as I'm starting my LS1 brake conversion! :mrgreen: If you are going to have the brackets within a week or so, I'd like to buy a set from you. Otherwise, I'll probably have already made my own by the time these would be available. About the hubs, I'd need ABS parts, and I have cores I could send to lower the cost, but like you said that may be the same cost as you buying some local.

What would be your cost of 1) a set of the brackets shipped to 46124 and 2) a set of hubs shipped to 46124 if I sent you the cores to make them from? Feel free to PM me further details if you're that far along with this.
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby Rickracer » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:50 am

I searched for some blatantly scrap ones at my J/Y when I did mine and they were $5 for the pair. They were waaay thin, and scored pretty deep. Obviously, the supply of junk S10 rotors will be iffy, but G body rotors will work too, (the earlier, 70s G bodys had 7/16" studs), but since you're putting studs in as well, you can use all the way back to '78, :wink: 8)
You could probably get your local J/Y to get junk rotors from other yards for cheap too, 8)
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby crankshaft » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:09 am

AWD V8 wrote:Have you checked at brake shops for scrap rotors? The shops are here would gladly take 5 bucks for a scrap rotor. They only a a buck or so.

Thanks I'll have to check that out.

97_lt1_sleeper wrote:How timely that you ask this right as I'm starting my LS1 brake conversion! :mrgreen: If you are going to have the brackets within a week or so, I'd like to buy a set from you. Otherwise, I'll probably have already made my own by the time these would be available. About the hubs, I'd need ABS parts, and I have cores I could send to lower the cost, but like you said that may be the same cost as you buying some local.

What would be your cost of 1) a set of the brackets shipped to 46124 and 2) a set of hubs shipped to 46124 if I sent you the cores to make them from? Feel free to PM me further details if you're that far along with this.

It just so happens that I picked up a set of abs core off a friend that just did a brake job on his 2001 s10. I'm hoping to have them in a week or so but the shop did say they were kind of busy now so idk. I'll check back in on that.

Rickracer wrote:I searched for some blatantly scrap ones at my J/Y when I did mine and they were $5 for the pair. They were waaay thin, and scored pretty deep. Obviously, the supply of junk S10 rotors will be iffy, but G body rotors will work too, (the earlier, 70s G bodys had 7/16" studs), but since you're putting studs in as well, you can use all the way back to '78, :wink: 8)
You could probably get your local J/Y to get junk rotors from other yards for cheap too, 8)


The yard I went to I don't really like that much but they were having a ":special" so I tried them. They are one of those that everything is listed in a computer and thats it. I'm going to try the other yard that I like thats about 20mi farther but its just a guy standing there saying "eh give me $XX for them", and they have a ton of S10's. Hopefully if I get the most ratty worn out ones I can find I can get them real cheap. :thumbup:
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby crankshaft » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:26 pm

Here are a few pics of the hubs and ls rotors together. They are a tight fit but do sit all the way back. I know they had to even take a little of the snout of one them to get the ls rotor to sit all the way back. Let me know what you think. do you guys like the extra material or would you rather just have them cut straight back at the mounting surface. The reason I keep asking is I like the extra material but a cut straight back might be easier (cheaper) to machine out than making them as form fitting.

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And one of the spindle. I'll get some pics of it all together this weekend when I have more time and the bracket paint finishes drying.
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby Rickracer » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:48 pm

I LIKE the idea of the extra meat on the back of the hub/rotor, :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby 97_lt1_sleeper » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:19 pm

I like the extra material on the hub as well; it should make the part significantly stronger. PM me when you've got pricing figured out and parts ready to go, and if I haven't already made the parts myself locally, I'd like to do business with you.
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby 88LT1Blazer » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:34 pm

Same here!! Get the price nailed down and get this going on. I have my LS1 brakes on the way. Not in a hurry to do them. It will happen sometime this summer. :thumbup:
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby s10studduts01s » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:38 pm

you don't think that the extra material may cause fitment issues for some people assuming that rotors from different companies are not all made the same?
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby crankshaft » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:11 pm

97_lt1_sleeper wrote:I like the extra material on the hub as well; it should make the part significantly stronger. PM me when you've got pricing figured out and parts ready to go, and if I haven't already made the parts myself locally, I'd like to do business with you.

I'm going to try to get this rolling and do 5 sets to start out with 2abs and 3 non abs, But honestly I'm not sure if I'll get the parts back for two weeks, so go ahead and do what
you got to do.

s10studduts01s wrote:you don't think that the extra material may cause fitment issues for some people assuming that rotors from different companies are not all made the same?

Well the two I picked up one was a obviously and aftermarket and the other apeared to be a stock one and the aftermarket actually fit better and needed less machining since it was fully machined unlike the rough casting of the stock ones. When I go out and look I'm going to try and find stock ones just to keep things uniform. Also they have one of my LS rotors so they can test fitment as well.
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby SleeperSS » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:37 pm

Just a thought...GM changed the hub diameter in 98...smaller. Which hub would be the better fit to the center hole of the LS rotor...97- or 98+

Edit...just did a closer read and it sounds like the 98+ would be a better fit to the center hole since he had to have the snout turned down a bit...can anyone confirm?
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby rossmann » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:27 am

I would be interested in @ least 1 set of brackets maybe 2 depending on cost already have the Rotors turned down and I left the lip on when I did mine
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Postby baktrak » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:47 am

Let me know a price, am ready to do my swap very soon.
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (possible "kits for sale" feeler)

Postby 99s10327 » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:03 am

Swap sounds good , I may be up for the brackets :thumbup:
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