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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby crankshaft » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:28 pm

Quick question for you guys. So I've been thinking about just purchasing new rotors to cut down as opposed to finding junk ones. It become a bit of a hassle getting the cores from the junk yards and around here theyre not that cheap. And by the time I go and pull them, and clean them up its pretty labor intensive. So question is, would raising the price for the hub kit another $20-30, and using brand new S10 rotors, put it out of everyones price range?
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby wkeracing » Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:31 pm

No, It would be quicker for you to put them out and quicker to receive the stuff. Then also, knowing you got new stuff.
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby Rickracer » Wed Aug 17, 2016 6:16 pm

How much more difficult would it be to make them from scratch, out of steel, rather than cast iron? Just a thought.... 8)
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby crankshaft » Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:27 pm

Ive actually had that thought already. Even with the few hours for engineering and program writing, it really wouldnt be too difficult. Problem would be trying to get enough machine time at work. Right now if a machine opens up, I'm able to set up and run about 4-5 set during lunch. In fact, that is how ive done my last few runs (much faster and nicer than when I was doing them on the old manual lathe). Since the shop I work at already does similar product I have a pretty good idea on how long it would take to run a job of them. I would need about 4hrs of machine time to make it worth while, and that would be hard to do right now.

However, I'm hoping that down the road to pick up a few of my own machines, now that I have a place to put them. Just bought a house with some property and am in the process of building a 30x50 garage. Probably wont happen in the next year or so, but hopefully sometime in the future.
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby Rickracer » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:07 am

IMHO, a machined steel hub would make for a much stronger, and more consistent product. Billet aluminum might even possibly be a viable option, if you could engineer it with enough strength. 8)
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby crankshaft » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:11 am

I believe flynby has or had an aluminium hub, but last I heard they were prone to cracking at the studs. Maybe if you thickened up the flange considerably, you could get away with it. I might have to check into material costs on making some steel ones.
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby SleeperSS » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:58 pm

Problem is that would push the wheels out further yet
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby Rickracer » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:14 pm

I could see the cracking with press-in studs, with aluminum, for that, I think screw-in studs would be a better way to go, just like good race axles. The whole thing about machining them himself, he can make sure the wheels wind up in the same place, :wink: 8)
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby wkeracing » Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:55 pm

When I ordered with crankshaft. I wanted ARP wheel studs and they are a hair thicker, the hubs cracked. So on the second set, I suggested to press in the studs first while it's still thick, then cut them down. He said that worked out great.
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby wkeracing » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:53 pm

Got my order in today, looks like good stuff.
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby crankshaft » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:53 pm

Rickracer wrote:I could see the cracking with press-in studs, with aluminum, for that, I think screw-in studs would be a better way to go, just like good race axles. The whole thing about machining them himself, he can make sure the wheels wind up in the same place, :wink: 8)

You'd be surprised how many of those castings are not even close to running true. It's amazing that some of them even balance out. I've even had some I've pitched because after machining they're noticeably thin on one side.

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wkeracing wrote:Got my order in today, looks like good stuff.

Thanks again for being patient, and enjoy! :thumbup:
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Engine finally runs!!!!!! :twisted:
Truck in middle of rebuild. On four wheels again! Putting the body back together. (Rust sucks)


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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby Rickracer » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:58 pm

I wouldn't be surprised at all, I've machined a few.....on a brake lathe, LOL. 8)
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby tigeraid » Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:10 pm

Sorry to drag this up again... It looks like you have 15s on your truck Rickracer? Do they clear the stock Camaro calipers for this swap?
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby Rickracer » Wed Nov 09, 2016 2:59 pm

I never tried 15" wheels. The wheels I had before were 16" IROC wheels, and the Centerlines on there now are 16" Fluted Telestars. They clear by PLENTY, but I don't think they would clear on any 15"s, at least not without some work. 8)
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76 Chevy Vega Drag Car, TWIN TURBO 355, P/G trans w/ brake and JW 4000 stall vert, 4 link back half, narrowed 9", 3.50 gears, 29.5x10.5W ET Drags. Best time9.669 @ 139.79, Latest video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S59riYn ... ata_player
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby tigeraid » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:05 pm

Ah. Gotcha, thanks for the quick response. I have it rolling around in the shop on 15s right now, but with no calipers mounted to it.

Guess I'll start hunting for 17s. :thumbup:
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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby rekless_s10 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:35 am

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Re: LS1 brake swap parts (UPDATED)

Postby crankshaft » Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:45 pm

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Engine finally runs!!!!!! :twisted:
Truck in middle of rebuild. On four wheels again! Putting the body back together. (Rust sucks)


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